Help Me with Firefox Popups
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Preston Gralla
Mar. 30, 2005 11:05 AM
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I'm not along in noticing this. Quite a few people have had the same problem, and they've emailed me, asking if I know why this is happening, and how to stop it.
The answer, unfortunately, is no -- I haven't been able to find a fix, or even understand how these annoying windows manage to appear on my screen.
So I'm asking for your help. Do you know how these popups and popunders get by the Firefox popup blocker? More important still -- how can I kill them? If you know the answers, or just have ideas, post a comment and let me and the world know.
Preston Gralla is the author of Windows Vista in a Nutshell, the Windows Vista Pocket Reference, and is the editor of WindowsDevCenter.com. He is also the author of Internet Annoyances, PC Pest Control, Windows XP Power Hound, and Windows XP Hacks, Second Edition, and co-author of Windows XP Cookbook. He has written more than 30 other books.
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So don't go there...
2005-03-30 17:57:05 dmccunney [Reply | View]
The problem you are encountering is not surprising. As popup blockers become more common, the folks who think they are effective ad forms get more creative in ways to produce them that aren't blocked. Mozilla based browsers such as Firefox block popups by disabling the Javascript "open unrequested window" function. The stuff you see now is probably using something other than Javascript to create the popup.
There are several options, though none are transparent. Under IE, I used to run a program called Naviscope. Naviscope functioned as a proxy server. I pointed Naviscope at my network connection, and told IE to connect through Naviscope. Among other things Naviscope filtered ads and blocked popups. Another popular product like that was the Proxomitron, which functioned in the same fashion. The drawback was the need to configure them for optimal performance, which might require site-by-site tweaks to handle special cases. Most users likely lack the knowledge to do that efectively. Some of us who have the knowledge begrudge the time required.
Developers have created a couple of extensions for Mozilla products that can help, such as AdBlock and FlashBlock. I've also encountered an extension that tried to amke it easier to train AdBlock.
Personally, I haven't gone that far yet. I use the built-in popup blocker of Firefox, and I've installed a set of CSS rules that blocks most in-line ad content. I suppose I'm lucky, as the sites I visit haven't resorted to the more advanced (and annoying) forms of pop-ups/pop-unders. Sites that do will probably lose my visit, and may get a note to the webmaster saying I won't be back and why.
The big question is "Why visit a site that has this crap in the first place?" In my case the answer is "Only if the site has something I need and can't get elsewhere". So far, I haven't seen any sites that qualify.
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Dennis
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adblock
2005-03-30 16:40:50 bingalls [Reply | View]
Privoxy requires a reasonably Linux compliant system, such as Mac OS X. For Firefox based solutions, take a look at the Adblock extension.
It is mostly useful for sites that you frequent, and also blocks Flash nicely.
Perhaps some of those popups are really floating iframes? Use Adblock.
Adblock lets you import its filters from a plain text file. Consider offering shared adblock.txt files to our community! I'd be happy offer mine, under GPL or other license.
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An Example of an offending site
2005-03-30 14:56:47 Blaine_A [Reply | View]
Everytime I visit http://www.drudgereport.com one of these pop-ups appear.
After making the Config File changes as suggested, I have noticed the pop-up that would always sneak by is now blocked.
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The answer is...
2005-03-30 12:59:12 jrs_66@yahoo.com [Reply | View]
To block pop-ups from plugins, open your Firefox 1.0 or 1.0.1 browser, type about:config in the address field. Right-click in the resulting config page somewhere and select New -> Interger. Type privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins in the resulting dialog, hit OK, type 2 in the next dialog and you're all set.
This pref can actually take three values:
* 0: open allowed
* 1: the opened windows are treated as popups, but they're allowed to open (we limit the number of these types of popups)
* 2: the window is a popup, block it
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same
2005-03-30 12:52:43 msporleder [Reply | View]
I have seen this too and they are difficult to reproduce because (I think) it usually comes from a banner-ad, which changes on refresh. If you start reading dilbert every day, I think you might run into one.
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I have an idea
2005-03-30 12:48:45 caspy7 [Reply | View]
I believe (and have read) that this new breed of popups is primarily caused by Macromedia Flash.
Firefox is set to block popups caused by the standard code that makes up web pages. Flash however is a plugin with rights to open popups on its own. Unfortunately, if you block it's ability to do so, you may hinder safe Flash content from performing as designed.
My solution is to use the FlashBlock extension for Firefox (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/). FlashBlock replaces Flash content with a placeholder on the page that allows you to click to view the content. It has a whitelist so you can turn on Flash (for every visit) on pages you trust.
I have used this extension for some time now simply because advertisements were becoming too distracting - hindering my reading. I noticed that popups began appearing on one of my computers that did not have Flashblock installed while I saw no new popups on those with it.
I hope this helps.
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Example and possible reason
2005-03-30 11:56:55 honkerdown [Reply | View]
An example would be helpful.
If I remember correctly, this is being caused by Flash multimedia objects, which now seem to be one of the mediums that advertisements are being distributed. The Flash plug-in is allowed to open URL's in new windows, which it can do at anytime. You could block the plug-in from spawning new windows, but this would also block desirable new windows. :/
For lots of great info just on this particular topic, check out Asa Dotzler's blog posting
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Can you give an example offending page?
2005-03-30 11:29:07 http://www.advogato.org/person/ReadMe/ [Reply | View]
Preston,
Can you give an example offending page?
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We've posted an extension that simply blocks all new windows. It stops the unwanted popups but at the cost of requiring explicit whitelisting for desired popups.
Because it's an extension it's easy to remove if you feel it goes too far. We're thinking of making these the default settings in the next version of Firefox so we welcome your feedback.
Read more at Asa's notblog